Hailyn Chen Discusses Mental Health on ALAS’ “Speaking of Law Firm Leadership” Podcast
Munger, Tolles & Olson Co-Managing Partner Hailyn Chen recently sat down with ALAS, the country’s largest lawyer-owned mutual company, for a guest appearance on the “Speaking of Law Firm Leadership” podcast. Alongside host Joseph Piech, Vice President – Senior Loss Prevention Counsel for ALAS, and guest Dr. Bonny Forrest, a licensed psychologist and principal at Firm Leader Inc., Hailyn discussed navigating the unique mental health challenges that law firm leaders may face.
The speakers noted that open conversations and vulnerability are crucial for leaders to recognize that they may need mental health support to be the best leaders they can be.
Hailyn shared, “One of the hardest things and the biggest hurdles that firm leaders need to overcome – this was certainly true for me – is reaching out for help. Recognizing that you need it and feeling comfortable asking for it.” She continued, “The words we associate with leaders, and law firm leaders, like ‘strength’ and ‘invincibility,’ don’t leave a lot of room for vulnerability…acknowledging you need help is a huge first step.”
As a consultant to law firm leaders, Dr. Forrest emphasized the importance of leaders like Hailyn to be proactive with mental health education and training. The ability to navigate tough conversations with attorneys in a thoughtful, supportive manner is key to strengthening firm culture.
“Speaking of Law Firm Leadership” is a podcast by ALAS for law firm leaders on effective leadership and management principles, positive firm culture and risk management. Hailyn serves on ALAS’ board of directors.